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Framework needs an audience bigger than that because mostly people don't think in terms of ecosystem, they think in terms of 'does it do what I want for a cost I want to pay' and Apple wins on this.


Only if they insist on expanding.

For now the audience of disgruntled former Apple customers or just repairability enthusiasts appears to be enough.


This is why no one buys Windows laptops I guess.


Windows is the most popular OS for laptops in the US precisely because it does what people want for a price they want to pay.


That statement doesn't stand on its own. For example, the most popular OS for laptops at my place of work is Windows. It has very little to do with what people want or price. It has almost everything to do with ecosystem lock in.

A significant portion of windows laptop market share comes from corporate purchases.


Is this totally true? There is advertising, marketing spend and retail shelf space. Surely it's more complex than "solves users problem at price point."


Advertising and marketing spend exist to make people aware of the device's capabilities and its price. I would be surprised to find that any consumer chooses a device because of its marketing spend and retail shelf space.


I’m pretty sure a lot of Apple devices are sold due to the image projected by Apple’s marketing.


That is, indeed, the purpose of advertising.


You wrote “I would be surprised to find that any consumer chooses a device because of its marketing spend”. But advertising does skew consumer choice by its presentation, and the success correlates with marketing spend. It’s far from merely informational. Otherwise we’d just have black on white listings of “this product exists” with spec sheets.


Then why doesn’t Samsung just spend twice as much as Apple and take over the entire market? Are they stupid?


This reminds me of yahoo.co.jp in a good way


What is that conclusion which differs from the post you replied to? The Amish are mindful about their technology adoption.


> The Amish are mindful about their technology adoption.

The central idea concerning the Amish's relationship to technology is that only technology is allowed if it does not destroy their community.

My personal values are much less based on upholding a community, but rather are much more rooted in individual freedom and independence. This means that I (likely) come to very different conclusions regarding this class of problems than the Amish do:

For example, I am less opposed to various kinds of technology that Amish would likely consider as as "community-destroying".

On the other hand, I guess I am much more opposed to technology that can be used to surveil the user and/or makes the user dependent on the whims of big tech companies than I guess the Amish are (i.e. the Amish would likely consider this as a much smaller problem concerning which technology to allow vs disallow; as I wrote: by my understanding their central concern is which consequences some technology has for keeping their community together).

To give evidence for the previous point: (by my impression - I am not US-American) you will rather not find many Amish people at political rallys against surveillance laws. The people who attend such rallys typically also have strong opinions on which technology to use or not to use (just talk to such people who are very strongly opinionated :-) ), but - as I pointed out - these technology choices come from very different basic premises than those of the Amish.


Yeah they probably wouldn't show up to a political rally because of this:

> Separation from Evil

> The community of Christians shall have no association with those who remain in disobedience and a spirit of rebellion against God. There can be no fellowship with the wickedness of this earthly world; therefore there can be no participation in the organizations, works, church services, meetings or civil affairs of those who live in contradiction to the commands of God (this may include Catholics and Protestants as well as other religions and pagans). All evil must be put away, including using weapons of force such as the sword and armor.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schleitheim_Confession


I haven’t had a solid schedule since Covid, work just happens whenever and I weave my personal life into it. Sometimes it’s late nights and a weekend, sometimes I take off a random Wednesday and do errands.


The problem Amazon has is that they already designed the perfect e-reader and released it in 2016. It's called the Kindle Oasis. All they had to do was keep making marginal improvements to this design (USB-C, faster processor) every few years. But that doesn't move units, need creation does, and convincing people that they need a new Amazon store front-end requires new form factors.

All these stories of people who have been using the same Kindle for 15 years is not an Amazon success story because those people have not been buying Kindles. It's true even though Amazon makes far more on the margin of sending special locked up text files that were written by someone else.


The picture in the article features Trump holding an iPhone.


He doesn't use any of this crap. He also wouldn't go within 100 feet of the vast majority of his supporters if he wasn't working an angle.


Apple needs to get into this space QUICK. They just added concert dates in Apple Music. Let me buy tickets with Apple Pay from the app and it's over.


>I don’t see any of the AI protestors here exclusively wearing hand-loomed fabrics and bespoke clothing and $5,000 cobbler-pounded leather boots while typing angrily on their keyboards. I also don’t see anyone commissioning artisan chair makers and blacksmiths to create $10,000+ custom furniture to sit on while posting pessimistic comments to HN.

We can’t afford those things…


Yes, that's my point.

Before mass production only the aristocrats and royalty could own a closet full of clothing and shoes.

If we blocked the creation of the assembly line and factories, we would return to that state where everyone is basically a subsistence farmer living in the dirt with nothing.


What is it about China that makes you trust them more?


They're far less imperialistic and I view them as better global citizens than the US. I think they've cultivated a much richer culture than the US as well.


You should read about the difference between a land empire and a sea empire.


Happy to if you have any pointers. My original point is that the US kills millions of people outside of its borders, something China most definitely does not. The number is over 12 million post-WWII: https://www.worldfuturefund.org/Reports/Imperialism/usmurder...


Replace the U.S. with another world power. Would it be better or worse? Its always easy to criticize the power that is in place and treat them as if they are to blame for all the ills of the world. It is easy to criticize when you are the nation that is asked to help provide international security for commerce on the high seas. But exchange another nation in the U.S.'s place, and I guarantee you most would make similar decisions, and many (e.g. Soviet Union) would be, hands down, worse and more brutal.


No one asked the US to kill millions of Koreans, Vietnamese, Iraqis, Afghans… well maybe Israel for those last two, but they’re a terrorist entity.


Well if you discount the people China has killed and is killing within its borders, the number is definitely smaller. As well as another land empire called Russia.


Any books or articles you recommend?


not living there, for one. I don't care if they know where I live since realistically they can't do much of anything to me. If I were in china, I probably wouldn't trust them as much as I trust the US. If I were in Switzerland, I wouldn't trust the swiss government and might get my services from america or china.


False choice. The US can choose many paths besides “maintain forever” and “cut off entirely without warning.”


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