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Being a homeowner, you get a title to your lot, not your entire neighborhood. You have no legal claim on your neighbor's home. If you want a legal claim on your neighbor's home, join an HOA. Or just buy it.


You do. It's called zoning.


I'd be willing to bet you every last dollar on the planet that if you read your deed, you will find zero claims to any particular zoning. Zoning is not a transferable property right. It can be changed for any reason at any time.


I’d love to take that bet. My deed (in Texas) states that my lot is subject to the rules of the subdivision which include a number of zoning style restrictions. (They’re called “deed restrictions” and are very common AFAIK.)

The subdivision rules are changeable only with a supermajority vote. I believe the city (Houston in my case) is prohibited by the state from unilaterally changing them.

(I wouldn’t mind more free property rights!!! I find TX “liberty” is often biased towards $$$)


I would gladly see that bet through because that's not zoning, even if its effects are the same as zoning. Subdivision rules are a restrictive covenant (much like how HOAs work). Zoning is not a restrictive covenant, it is by definition a municipally-reserved restriction on land uses, and can be changed at the discretion of the jurisdictional authorities.

I've actually encouraged NIMBYs to use those HOA-style restrictive covenants if they're so adamant on their "zoning" never changing, because a restrictive covenant is actually a volunatory restriction. A city cannot come in and remove them willy nilly (they do in special cases like red-lining, but it is a politically arduous process). Someone with a restrictive covenant by definition has more protection from their neighborhood changing than they would if they just relied on zoning.

The problem is, nobody likes restrictive covenants, and they don't like the HOA-like structures that govern them, and they really don't like the punchable-faced people that seek power in those kinds of organizations.


So can the US constitution through amendments, but it's not easy.


... with a vote. And subject to the takings clause.

The government can also just take your deed and property, again subject to the takings clause, so long as they pay you back. Or claim someone was slinging crack there or something and not pay you back.

If you're including things subject to the democratic process all the above is on the table.

Also plenty of things written into the deed don't mean shit. It's quite common to read a deed that says something like, in more fluffed terms "no black people allowed." This got baked into lots of deeds back in the day and never got changed because removing covenants to a deed is usually next to impossible. It doesn't mean dick because again the government can simply add or subtract by fiat what your deed actually means.

What your deed is and isn't is a lot closer to how zoning works than you think. Ranchers found this out when their transferrable private property grazing rights tracing back to the very founding era of the USA got usurped by the government and ultimately the BLM who turned around and actually said they're public federal property (which resulted in things like, the Bundy standoff).


If your neighborhood's zoning isn't in your deed, how are you going to claim it was taken from you?

Zoning is a restriction on your rights...when they are lifted, you are gaining more tangible rights, not losing them. If anything, the takings clause should have applied to properties where zoning was introduced...not where it was removed.


Zoning belongs to all the voters in the municipality, not just the homeowners.


It's a beautiful state of affairs when owners of property can collude for their interests with almost no restrictions, but worker unions are almost entirely defanged.


With good reason: https://www.cfmeuinquiry.qld.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0...

I have paid between $3,000 and $6,000 personally to organized crime so a bunch of bogans can buy American suvs to kill cyclists more efficiently.


Meanwhile, nobody bats an eye when housing prices inflate $300,000 because existing homeowners are doing their fucking hardest to make sure that no new homes get built.


Yes, home owners: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/apr/12/canada-migrati...

Funny how when you hit the breaks on pupulation growth house prices also freeze.


And then a decade of that later, all the people bitching about immigration will be wondering why the country's demographics resemble that of a nursing home, and why the tax base and the social safety net has collapsed.


The social safety net has collapsed _today_.

Hospital wait times in Canada, Australia and the UK are _years_ for elective procedures. I had a health scare three years ago and got put on the public waiting list. I still get a message every 6 months to remind me that I'm on the waiting list.

I've still to advance far enough up the queue to get a date booked.

This is not normal.


> The social safety net has collapsed _today_.

It can always collapse more. Ask anyone who lived through an actual economic collapse. (As opposed to the kinds of minor corrections that the West has seen over the past few decades.)

Your imagination is very limited if you can't think of what the long-term consequence for a country with an average age of 41.6, a fertility rate of 1.25, and a huge political block of nativists who can't do basic arithmetic, are asking for something incredibly stupid, are getting exactly what they want, good and hard.

You solve a housing shortage by... Building more housing. Not by driving young people who want to do work out of your community.


Destroy your society today so it doesn't get potentially destroyed in 30 years is certainly a take.

>You solve a housing shortage by... Building more housing.

It's not housing. It's roads. Hospitals. Schools. Sewers. Power lines. Everything needs to be rebuilt. That means that the immigrants who are coming in must be engineers, doctors, teachers, tradies. Instead we get uber drivers and IT consultants. There aren't enough qualified people in the world to keep up with current immigration to the west. The only solution is to lower immigration until the ratio of qualified people coming in matches (or hopefully exceeds) the ratio of qualified people already here. Anything else lowers living standards and makes a right wing reaction inevitable.

Here's what happens when you build more housing: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-25/one-hour-delays-along...


> Destroy your society today so it doesn't get potentially destroyed in 30 years is certainly a take.

Immigrants coming in today aren't 'destroying society'.

And it's not 'potentially'. It's certainly. Nativists have no answers to it, and if they actually presented the dilemma of 'We can keep Pablo out, and also anyone currently under the age of 40 will have to work until they are 75', not a single person would give their ideas a moment of thought.

> It's roads. Hospitals. Schools. Sewers. Power lines. Everything needs to be rebuilt.

Why does it need to be rebuilt on anything beyond a regular depreciation schedule in a steady-population situation?

And by the way - Canada needs to invite at least half a million people a year in order to maintain the population at a steady-state. That number is the table stakes.


>And by the way - Canada needs to invite at least half a million people a year in order to maintain the population at a steady-state. That number is the table stakes.

In 2025 total deaths in Canada were 334,699, totals births were 368,928.

The table stakes is -30,000 immigrants last year.

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1/en/tv.action?pid=171000...

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1/en/tv.action?pid=171000...

>Why does it need to be rebuilt on anything beyond a regular depreciation schedule in a steady-population situation?

Canada is not at steady state. It's been growing at over 1% since 2000:

https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/population-and-demograp...


> In 2025 total deaths in Canada were 334,699, totals births were 368,928.

If you think that's not a problem, stop cherrypicking numbers, and look at Canada's population pyramid. And then tell me what will happen as the big fat middle, that starts at 25... ages out of work. Do you think that little sliver of 0-24s are going to be holding everyone else up?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Canada#/media/...

Those are the numbers you need to be looking at. Oh, and emigration isn't zero, but someone leaving the country isn't counted as a death on the census. 120,000 people emigrated in 2025.


In that case we aren't in a steady state population case and we need to build schools, hospitals, public transport, water, power etc.

Which means that we need stop importing low skill labor in the IT and services industry and move to high skill labor.

The developing world unfortunately doesn't produce enough for the current immigration levels in the west. Ergo we must lower immigration until the ratio of high skill migrants is equal or higher than that of the native population.


I have a bridge to sell you




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